As a fan of the first lady (one of the few lol) I have to say I find it sad how people try to paint her as some vindictive manipulative woman who only got married to secure her future, pave the way for her political ambition. Yes she does reference how lucrative it would be for…
I’m sure she’s not manipulative, that is why she took up forging his signature, waay back while they were still in the Gorvenor’s mansion. Forging your spouse’s signature is the sort of thing that enhances love and promotes a healthy relationship between the couples.
The woman is very clever, she is full of many bright ideas. Of course she would have had a bright career, if she didn’t unilaterally chuck in her career. S1 Ep 6, they were supposed to have a clear-the-air talk, which degenerated into an argument. She shouted at him that she’d given up her career and had kids for him. Fitz rebuttal? ‘I never asked you to’.
Since she found out about the affair, NOT ONCE HAS SHE ALLUDED TO LOVE. As we saw in the flashback she actually encouraged Olivia to proceed with the affair, told her it was her patriotic duty to fcuk her husband. Did you miss the episode.
When the Amanda Tanner debacle hit a crescendo threatening Fitz’s position, she told him to lie, when he refused, she told him point blank she was leaving. At that point she didn’t even ask him ‘oh darling, why did you cheat on, where did our love go? How could you do this to me, I love you so much.’ Nope, she told him to go out and lie cause Billie and Amanda were about to ruin what they had sort to build for 15 years.
In the limo she bemoaned their decayed partnership, mentioned nothing about love.
In that same scene. Mellie asked for forgivenes. I wonder why, after all according to you she is more sinned against that the sinner.
I could go on but I can’t be a*sed any.
Poor innocent Mellie dog will not hunt. You can try, though.
Well my mother could forge my dad’s signature. She isn’t manipulative and vindictive because of that. It’s just one of those things you can either pick up or not, it doesn’t mean she was hoping to one day axe him and forge a will in his name. My dad had his own issues to deal with so when I needed school forms signed by both parents she’d sign his name as well for him.
And I’ve seen people say it must have been for some illicit reason. What reason? Because she’s Mellie and it has to be something bad because she’s in the way of true love? Please.
The strange thing is that 1shara acts as though the talk they had degenerated into an argument because of Mellie and not because Fitz was having one of his “Olivia hates me I want to die” moments. I’m not a crazy Scandal stan so I don’t remember every single second of every single episode but I recall a number of instances where they Mellie does try to have a moment with Fitz but her timing is always awful i.e Fitz has had an argument with Olivia and is now taking out his frustrations on her. Even in the car before the birthday party, she tries to reach out to him, wife to husband, “I don’t want to go.” Tell me he would’ve blown off Olivia had she been the one in the car with him?
Yes, she does encourage the relationship. Why? Oh I don’t know. I guess it’s because she figures their relationship is already dead and gone and to keep Fitz’s sanity as well as her own (because let’s face it Fitz is a total asshat when the OliFitz ship is sailing in dangerous waters read: when he isn’t getting some of that Pope Pie) And as many people have pointed out Mellie isn’t some simpering romantic. She’s not going to weep melodramatically about her feelings and insecurities. Not everyone is like this:
“Why don’t you love me anymore?” “I need you.” “You’re the only one for me.”
I doubt she’d be that explicit.
Like I said it isn’t mentioned why their relationship broke down, because it is implied that it wasn’t because of Olivia, she came after. Maybe flashbacks will reveal how they fell out.
And I didn’t say Mellie was faultless, she does act like she doesn’t care, that kind of aloofness will drive a wedge in a relationship. Its funny that so many of her anti-fans decided to interpret my post as her being the good guy and everyone else as her antagonists. That’s not the point.
So she was right to ask for forgiveness in the car. Because how far apart they’ve fallen isn’t one persons’s fault though Mellie definitely got the short end of that stick.
Fitz has not once apologized for either of his indiscretions.
I won’t deny that Mellie is ambitious. For 15 years she’s helped this man, made sure he attained his dream of becoming president. Living under a microscope of scrutiny, having to be perfect all the time, prefect house, perfect kids…perfect life. For the sake of getting him the presidency where she hoped she could be his right hand (as she well should be, she is his wife remember?) She has great ideas, she’s intelligent, she’s a political animal who had hoped to have some say in how the country was run. But she’s pushed to the side lines. Her husband takes up with some woman who he seems to think more highly of as an equal.
I’d be pissed too.
And this is just my opinion but I think she figures the wife of the American president title is all she has left. She doesn’t want to lose it. It makes everything worth it somehow for her.
But if you’re an Olitz fan you will find it impossible to like Mellie. Personally I think she could have done WAY better than Fitz. Because for all his “I exist for you” and “I’m yours” he’s just a guy who couldn’t keep it in his pants.
And in as much as Olivia is the quintessential “strong black woman” she is in the end a mistress, a homewrecker…etc.
But I guess that’s what makes Scandal great because not a single person in the show is perfect. Not even Olivia. Gasp!
@Theastuff. It’s quite obvious that in your mother’s case forgery was a matter of ‘needs must’; circumstances beyond her control forced her to do what she did . It was either that or watch her child miss out on things. I get that. That is not manipulative, that is applying ingenuity to get what’s yours.
Now, can you really say that Mellie was in the same predicament as your mother? I cannot for the life of me fathom why Mellie would need to forge Fitz’s signature. They weren’t separated, he wasn’t dodging his parental responsibilities, Mellie is a woman of means and does not her husband to give her pin money to survive, she doesn’t need to forge his signature to access funds, you get me? if he was away and she needed something urgently signed, I’m sure they had access to technology, and she would have been able to scan the document, e-mail it to him, get him to sign it, he in turn would have signed it, scanned it and e-mailed it back to her. So why the forgery, why the deception?
Mellie specifically said that she started doing this during his tenure in the Governor’s mansion. Coincidence? I think not. At that juncture, Fitz was not the average guy on the street, which means his signature on any document carried significant weight and should never under any circumstances have been appropriated by anyone else.
What Mellie has achieved with that little escapade is create a huge mess for everybody to clean up, that forgery has wide reaching consequences. First of all, before you even look at any other constitutional implications, that forgery tarnishes the president’s image. In that his enemies within and outside the party will be quick to use that as proof that the people around him, specifically his wife, are lawless, feckless, reckless and greedy for power. It will require everyone within their circle to fight really hard to cover this one up.
Also, please understand when it comes to ‘Litz’that to alot discerning people, me included, we do not harbour any resentment towards Mellie. These two love each other and it has nothing to do with Mellie. Also, Mellie isn’t bothered about Fitz’s zipper, she is bothered about the zip code. She accepted the affair a long time ago and even told Olivia this. Olivia is the one who freaked out and left,’ breaking his heart and leaving him vulnerable and to end up in hands of that shiny red amanda apple’ Mellie’s words not mine.
The argument I referred to is in S1 Ep 6, the episode covers the period of time Olivia came on board Fitz’s camapaign. She noticed that the Grants were icy with each other and she asked them to sit down and talk out their differences. This was way before Olivia and Fitz became involved. During that argument Cy and Liv were out of the room and they could here the Grants tearing into each other. This argument had nothing to do with Fitz’s and his feelings for Oliva. Nothing.
RE: The car scene to the birthday party when Mellie said she didn’t feel like attending? If you go back to the beginning of the episode, Fitz didn’t want that party in the first place and he made it clear to both cy and Mellie. They overruled him…as usual. Guess what? If it was Olivia, she would have either understood that Fitz wasn’t keen on the party and let the matter rest or she would have furnished him with compelling reasons as to why the party was a good idea and ONCE he agreed to attend, Olivia would not have pulled that stunt that Mellie tried to pull, wanting to cancel on the party and all that crap. The POTUS cannot be seen to pull no shows, it leads to unnecessary speculation, which is bad for him, his administration and the country.
It is not Mellie who stands in the way of Litz, it is a juvenile public that will never accept that the president wants to leave his wife and be with the woman he loves, it is the needs of the country which stand in the way. The country is in dire need of legislative reform which can only be engineered by Fitz. Olivia recognises that Fitz is in that unique position to effect change, he is POTUS with a heart who wants and is capable of pushing for legislation to create a more equitable America. The office of the President and the opportunites it offers to change the world as a whole far surpasses their love for each other. It is a once in a lifetime opp and they owe it to themselves to let Fitz effect change in America.
Mellie did not get him elected. That dead marriage was so obvious to the public that bar Olivia’s intervention, teaching them how to fake it and all, Fitz’s campaign would have tanked.
Secondly, the American public elects 1 president, there is no 2fer (2 for 1). The FLOTUS did not run for elections. Sally and Fitz did. If Mellie wanted power, she shoud have rolled up her sleeves and run for office. After all Sally did. Trying 2 for 1 behind the scenes, is not going to work because Mellie is a hawk, Fitz is a dove, in terms of political ideology they are at opposite ends of the GOP spectrum! They will just end up squabling. Fitz is accountable to the party and to the voters, Mellie is not. Mellie cannot have a co-presidency because America is a democracy, you run for office, you get elected, you have mandate simples. She can’t be V-P, Sally L has that covered. She can’t sit on the cabinet…for obvious reasons, her role is FLOTUS and through out history FLOTUS are ornamental not funtional. The American public likes that way. Mellie doesn’t have his ear cause ideologically they are world’s apart. FLOTUS is all she can be, if she doesn’t like it, tough!
You say Mellie has bright ideas? Name one? In my opinion this is a woman who purports to have graduated top of her class from 2 Ivy League universities, but she hasn’t got a clue!
Ditching her career and having kids she resents so much? That was a unilateral decison, Fitz never asked her to do either as established in epic argument, S1 Ep 6.
Lying about the miscarriage? I thought that was lame, there are many other issues she would have invoked to get the female vote; equal pay, employment, immigration, housing, access to education… to reduce women to their wombs was backward.
The Nystom campaign? She was looking to embarrass Fitz and flash her political capital. Mind you the capital was not garnered from the ballot boxes but from mere public opinion.
America’s baby and asking Liv to live? Have done little to save her marriage.
Forging the signature? Has created an even bigger mess for others to clean up.
Revoking Olivia’s visiting rights? May as well have contributed to Fitz delayed recovery. It took Olivia’s touch to ‘resurrect’ him.
Mellie fancies herself a political animal, but really she doesn’t have what it takes to navigate the corridors. I am yet to see even one bright idea from that woman. for heavens sake she doesn’t even know how to talk to the hired help! I can’t. It’s always about her and when it’s not about her, she tries to make it about herself.
You are free to like her. I don’t. However,I enjoy watching her.